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It's interesting to note that it's not just comments that can be manipulated but also the stories that are upvoted.


Curious how OP got this idea.

USA PATRIOT Act Sec. 1013 (a)(10), (b)(5,6) mentions research, distribution and stockpiling of vaccines but nothing about liability.

There was a decision in 2011 that might be of interest: http://blogs.findlaw.com/decided/2011/02/cant-sue-drug-compa... http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/22/us.scotus.vaccines/index...


It's called "Believing the first thing you hear or read on the Internet, and automatically rejecting everything you hear or read on the subject after that." It just means that some loony anti-vaxxer got to him/her first.

There ought to be a formal name for the fallacy of assigning greater credibility to earlier information, but I'm not sure what it would be.


It's essentially confirmation bias.


No, its called I got the name of the Act wrong.

Do you deny the primary point? That its illegal for you to sue vaccine makers?


No, and I understand why it's necessary to make it difficult to sue vaccine makers. Vaccines are not 100% safe or effective. Nobody ever said they were. The battle against disease cannot be fought with weapons that are 100% safe or effective, because such weapons don't exist. Unfortunately it's true that a very small number of vaccine recipients are going to experience some very severe side effects. Life goes on for the rest of us.

Meanwhile, as long as we rely on private industry to supply the vaccines we need, we have to protect the manufacturers from obviously-frivolous lawsuits that nevertheless require decades of research and millions of dollars in pointless, unproductive studies to prove that they're frivolous. For some reason this field attracts kooks... or haven't you noticed?


You also got the year wrong by a decade and a half, which would seem to render nonsensical the part of your post where you talk about "since 2001."


Makes sense. Thanks for responding.


It's also interesting because modern American politics seems to be primarily driven by corporations.


What this says to me is that we should immediately stop pouring money into conflagrations overseas.


But then our gasoline prices would go up.


They'll go up when our elected officials succeed in leveraging the low gas prices as an excuse to increase gas taxes either way, really... and then they'll likely go up again on their own for double-up power.


"Prisons are built with stones of Law, brothels with bricks of Religion." William Blake


What makes you think paintings are supposed to be educational? What properties must something fulfill to be educational?


Happen to have any more info for finding this talk from Moglen?


https://www.softwarefreedom.org/events/2009/Moglen_Cardozo/

Despite its title, Bilski is only talked about in the last 1/5 of the talk. The 4/5 before that, he goes through a historical perspective of the patent system.


What's your point?


> uncontroversial, accurate factual description.

Are you so obsessed with minutiae of definitions that you are unable to see that both terms describe reprehensible acts performed by people against other people?


The parent is right to be skeptical considering the number of lawyers involved in this mess. Torture is obviously illegal so it has more implications than just "enhanced interrogation".


Right to be skeptical of what, precisely?


> It does represent the will of the people.

So you're saying the UK government held a vote asking "Do you want to be surveilled?" and a majority of citizens answered in the affirmative? I can't remember anything like that happening here in the US.


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