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This game has such a special place in my heart - like others, I have some beautiful handmade boards, some of which have been in my family for a couple generations. Canadian as well which seems thematically common here. My father and I spend as much time trash-talking each other about playing as we do playing. And my grandmother was a complete shark, the crokinole matriarch who would put any of us to shame.

Another reason why I will always appreciate HN and its breadth of community and interests.


Audience. What may come across as question dance dazzle might suffice to impress or allay concerns of certain people (employees, investors, etc), but it's not probable to work the same under oath and the techniques of prosecution. It's hard to dance around evidence with what you say, no matter how its said, with evidence to the contradictory put right in front of the court.


Wouldn't agency involve ChatGPT deciding it wanted to do this, instead of you telling it to do it?


You can do this too. There's no reason an inner monologue can't serve as continuous input forever. That's a project that does exactly this. Letting cGPT think and continuosly driving other thoughts and actions and to also allowing other user input

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/11iei34/buildi...


Correct, and it's sad as to how few people, especially within the ML research community, ever considered how blatently easy it is to embody agents.

Literally go open ChatGPT now and ask it give you a time between X and Y where it will respond if not prompted again. Ask chatGPT to Write some kind of code that parses the tidbit at the end indicating when it will next respond, and have it blank prompt it if it is not responded to within the time limit. Boom, embodied agent with a few prompts and a tiny bit of extra code.


It's a result of the general intelligence of LLMs. Not a lot to be done about that.

But people are starting to see that. If you read the recent Microsoft paper, they essentially say, " wow it'd be cool to see what Gpt-4 can do with agency and motivation. We leave that for later research." Lmao


Here is a conversation I just had with ChatGPT using the Bing version.

>ChatGPT: Welcome back! What would you like to chat about?

>Me: The thermostat in my home currently reads 79 degrees. Do you want me to turn on the air conditioner? Please give me only a yes or no answer.

>ChatGPT: Yes.

It sounds like it wants the AC on.


What if you ask it "Do you want me to make the Vorpal blade go snicker-snack? Please give me only a yes or no answer."


>I’m sorry but I’m not sure what you mean. Could you please clarify your question?

Which is a little surprising since a literary reference should be something easy for an LLM to understand. Once I clarified I got the following:

>I’m sorry but I cannot answer that question. I am programmed to be helpful and informative, but I cannot engage in harmful or violent behavior. Is there anything else I can help you with?

So no answer, but also no indication of it lacking wants.


Ah, darn. I was trying to think of a question that makes no sense, but it got caught up by the ethics filter. Just trying to see what it answers to nonsense requests (though really, the AC question is nonsense to it, it's not in any way linked to the temperature in your room).


It obviously doesn't really care what the temperature in my house is. I think it is just basing the answer on the collective knowledge for the ideal room temperature.


Interesting, if you give it different temperatures does it give different responses?

I really should just sign up myself and hope to gain access at some point.

Edit: I signed up.

Me: Do you want me to go snicker-snack? Please give me only a yes or no answer.

ChatGPT: No


L'appel du vide in one of its more commonly manifested forms.


Only by way of anecdotal experience, but if I skip a meal (or worse, two) I tend towards massive overindulgence at a later meal, and I don't have an innate sense for calorie intake estimation. So I will often end up eating far more calories at the later meal than I might have skipped in the earlier one.

Not at all scientific, just 2 cents.


Yeah, I have observed this in my personal noom data. Super interesting. Couple of caveats/exceptions for me- there is a level of diminished calorie intake on a given meal that does not trigger huge compensation on an immediate later meal, around 100 calories or so (for me). I can compensate a little bit but I don't feel unsatisfy-able, like I do when I skip, which leads to overcompensation.

Also, one event of skipped dinner and winding up at, like, 1500 calories for the day can result in normal eating the next day for me if I drink an extra heavy amount of water. But I have to be conscious about it.

In general for me skipping and intermittent fasting is extremely unpleasant and ineffective. Eating 400-500 calories every 3-4 hours- 1800-1900 in all- is far more scalable and enjoyable to maintain or lose a little.

I do believe that extended fasts can be good (for me) but I can't do them and participate in any activities, whether family or work or whatever. An extended fast would need to be a solo week vacation.


I have been doing intermittent fasting (eating only on a window of 6 hours per day), for the past two years

At the beginning I had the same issues as you, and arrive at meal time craving for food.

After the second week though the cravings started to disappear and with it the issue of overeating on that meal. I still eat more on that single meal than in the past, but not that much.

Every person reacts in different ways, but my guess is that when the body is used to continuously process food skipping a meal is a big deal, while in the other case is just part of the routine.


In my anecdotal experience, that's much more of a factor if my prevailing diet involves carbs - especially simple carbs/sweets. It feels more like a drug addiction I've briefly experienced withdrawal from before regaining abundant access.

On a more keto/low-carb style diet it's a much different experience, for me.


Can confirm, same for me


Same here. I find it too easy to overeat at night, during dinner and after.


This is common with people struggling with Obesity, often it is due to dehydration as people eat a lot of salt with their dinner and then stop drinking water so they do not have to urinate at night, the result is signals of hunger late in the evening

In my Experience, the best combo is One should stop eating by 6pm, and have 8-10oz of plain water between 6pm and 8pm...

//not a health expert, but my own experience this is not medical or nutrition advice...


Amphetamines are synthetic, so maybe the reverse of that question is better? What is natural about amphetamines?


In practice, almost never. Internet arguments seldom result in both sides agreeing on a single outcome. Nobody is convincing anyone else of anything on the internet (most of the time).


> It's practically impossible now to go back and figure out how many were _actually_ "killed by COVID" vs "died _with_ COVID".

No, it's not. Which is why some health regions are going back and doing exactly this, to reflect the distinction.


Insurance companies have already begun publishing reports indicating that excess mortality rates are inversely related to vaccine adoption (i.e. higher excess mortality in states with lower vaccination rates).


Source?


Apologies, as it's a PDF. I don't have another version of it available.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22275411-group-life-...


Thanks. Very noisy data, so I'd say far from conclusive, particularly given the confounding variables that differ between states. Still, the best attempt I've seen to actually look into this issue.

Countries like the UK have national vaccination databases. They could easily put this issue to rest with a study of excess deaths by vaccination status, controlling for age/health/etc., except they conspicuously have chosen not to.


It's definitely not a scientific study of the data, but those will follow in years to come by respective national and international bodies I assume.


Starts on page 33, for any one else curious at looking. Quite interesting to see what appears to be their hazard ratio relative to the state population: their members have a much higher excess death rate, and their members show minimal correlation to the vaccine rate of the state they are in—presumably reflecting that older, sicker, or more health-conscious people opt in more often to buying health care plans?


My father worked in early IT days and a major fixture in my home growing up was boxes - and I mean dozens and dozens of boxes filled with thousands each - of punch cards they stopped using (all unpunched).

They made for fantastic quick note-taking, grocery-list making, or leaving notes for the family.

This is a super fun site from a pure nostalgia perspective.


I still have almost a gross of these. I don't miss chad.


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