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So if I write a piece of software that does the job I designed it for, and you decide you want it to do something else, you should be handed the source code and right to redistribute it? Simple like that?


It sounds like you're still actively using the copyright (by distributing your software) in that case, so no?


That's not what the parent comment posits.


For rooms with closed windows this stuff has in my experience a 100% success rate. (they always manage to get in somehow). Spray the room an hour before bedtime and it eradicates them. Guess it's similar to that stuff they spray on airlines.

It is not a repellent but seems to actively kill them/render them unable to fly [Metofluthrin (Pyrethroid)]

https://www.peacefulsleepsa.co.za/products/in-room-solutions...


Is there any known adverse effect for human health?


I researched that before and I think it's considered generally safe. Toxicity required huge doses.

Though the instructions recommend ventilating the room a little after letting it settle, and I don't use it every night. Also I like to cover pillows before spraying.

It's very similar to the WHO recommended stuff used before and during flights - https://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc243.pdf


The article proves its own headline untrue. And a weak attempt at historical revisionism


The article offers good evidence to support its headline. And a good example of proper data literacy


Really? It seems very coherent to me. Sweden did not benefit from a free rein policy. On the contrary, the country's death rate for 2020 was in the EU top 10. And the reason it escaped the worst of the second wave is it vaccinated rigourously before any of the other Nordics.


> This law sucks for so many reasons, and is inane, but the risk to micro-bloggers of £18M+ fines is, in reality, nil.

A little naivety methinks. You should say rather

... the risk to micro-bloggers of £18M+ fines is, in reality, nil. ...should the bloggers not publish opinions contrary to the state and its current objectives.


I am cynical as the next guy. However, I think the UK government is just trying to protect people (children in particular) from what it considers harmful content. They are just being heavy-handed about it.

The previous and current UK government have also been steadily hacking away at UK citizen's right to peaceful protest. But I think that it is a different issue, and it doesn't help to conflate the two.


However, I think the UK government is just trying to protect people (children in particular) from what it considers harmful content.

I can't come close to agreeing. The same minister pushing this, who is by his own admission semi literate and can't understand very basic concepts, has basically no understanding of technology (or indeed expertise in any area), has made no secret of the fact this is about censoring online speech he personally does not like[1]. He is a paid up yes man deep in the pockets of companies selling low effort AI solutions to governments for the purposes of enforcing speech[2] who wants, all said and done, to shut down twitter/X because people express opinions there he doesn't like. This has almost literally nothing to do with the old fashioned pearl clutching "think of the children". So much so he's going around holding anyone with reasonable opposition to this bill for child sexual assault, future, past and present[3]. This is obvious overcompensatory zeal. And it is week one.

What he has not done is engage earnestly with legitimate concerns about privacy and the bill. And he never will.

[1] https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/labour-peter-ky... | https://archive.is/Snw7y

[2] https://news.starknakedbrief.co.uk/p/we-need-to-talk-about-s...

[3] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgery3eeqzxo


Peter Kyle has not been on my radar. I agree that giving a senior government post to someone with a reading age of 8 (assuming that is true) is alarming. It is also noticeable that Rayner, the deputy Prime Minister, left school at 16 with no qualifications. Hardly confidence inspiring.

I despise Farage. But I think equating him with Savile because he didn't agree with a bill, was totally unacceptable and Farage deserves an apology (probably the only time I am ever going to say that).


I am in exactly the same Farage-wise. I think he is a vile human being, but equating him with Savile is the worst kind of gutter politics, the kind I never thought we would see in the UK. I now resent this Labour government even more, for making me feel sympathetic towards Farage.


Why do you despise Farage?

Everyone else is so great and the UK's been doing well under their "we're great and Farage is the enemy of this paradise continuing"?


I have no great love for the Labour party. The Conservative party even less so.

However many of the challenges the UK is facing come from the fur-lined, ocean going balls-up that is Brexit. And Farage was the main architect of Brexit. And that is just for starters.


Can you explain why that is though, Brexit being such a big deal?

I don't know how to reconcile that with other countries doing fine on their own two feet (especially when that country has very much done fine on its own feet before)


> I am cynical as the next guy.

Hold my beer.


Obviously not all homes are suitable for this. Not all people buying a home will want the maintenance burden, the insurance risk is higher. I have a massive solar array on a house in a very sunny country and even in winter there the cost benefit is limit. In most of England it's nearly pointless. This doesn't mandate battery storage, making it almost literally pointless.


I'll have to listen to the podcast later but what's the predicate for the determination of their age?


It has been a while since I looked at the papers but I believe it's carbon dating of the human remains buried at the megaliths.


The title does not say that


You're right updated


Making statements in support of or in support of the actions of a proscribed terrorist group.


What statements did they make in support of Hamas or their actions? Forgive me for not taking that claim at face value given that literally any pro-Palestinian speech, no matter how measured, tends to get conflated with support for terrorism and/or anti-semitism. Even something as benign as wearing a keffiyeh in solidarity, which the ADLs CEO likened to wearing a swastika.


The closest to it is that the organization he represented supported resistance "by any means, including armed resistance" immediately after 7.10.23. But AFAIU they were very careful not to mention Hamas, positively or negatively.


Is being a "Palestinian activist" that?


This argument would be stronger if either of you had sources showing what he has or categorically hasn’t done.


Hard to prove “hasn’t done.”

I’ll leave it to folks saying he has done something to prove it.


> Hard to prove “hasn’t done.”

Even a statement is fine. The point is this argument is vacuous if both sides assume intent.

> I’ll leave it to folks saying he has done something to prove it

Sure. They do that in court filings. It just takes time. (And maybe it’s all bunk!)


Statement what?

I think it is kinda an insidious system where it is expected we would have a statement vs any possible bad thing.

I’m all for innocent until proven guilty. If this guy mailed a check to hamas directly then fine by me, otherwise I say prove it.


> otherwise I say prove it

Sure. But they have no obligation to provide it to you right now. Anyone concluding confidently before we have court filings is obviously grinding an axe. (And it’s happening on both sides. No group has a monopoly on hyperbole.)


>But they have no obligation to provide it to you right now.

Yes we're posting on HN, I think we all know that...


And that is enough to revoke a green card of someone married to a US citizen?


> that is enough to revoke a green card of someone married to a US citizen?

If he’s organising support for a terrorist organisation or October 17th [EDIT: 7th], yes. If he’s just voicing support for Palestinian rights, it shouldn’t be.


I would hope so


Allegedly.

The government - through the Biden and Trump admins - has been testing out the limits of student repression with pro-Palestine protestors. Think of it as a pilot program for seeing what they can get away with. As we have seen elsewhere, violent shutdown of university protests is one early step on the path towards more widespread repression.

It is fine to not care, but don’t start crying for support once your cause is on the gov’s radar.


This isn't the UK


The EU and the EUC are not your friend when it comes to privacy

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/high-level-group-...


Nor is the jurisdiction Apple is headquartered in: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/apple-admits-to-...

It feels like a moot point, to me.


How is an exploration of broad spectrum legislative attacks on all forms of encryption regardless of hosting and corporate ownership and data communication moot?


The UK has to formally ask for a backdoor, the United States has the leverage to coerce Apple into implimenting one while demanding that it remain a secret. We don't know if the US has implemented equivalent iCloud backdoors yet, it might be under wraps like the push notification bug.

Maybe that doesn't concern you though, and that's fine. Apple is always looking for customers that don't care that much about their devices.


I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about.

Is there a particular reason you don't want to discuss the EU working group which is what I posted in response to your comment.

I didn't even dive in to how your original comment doesn't make sense to me. How do you think the DSA would help or change anything regarding either.


Is there any particular reason you ignored Apple's admission of extralegal surveillance that they were demanded to hide by the US government?

If you want to turn this into a relativist pissing contest, be my guest. I think it's a moot point, since the United States is complicit in an even more heinous form of surveillance. Don't moralize to me when America refuses to lead by example, this is the precedent that we set.


I've no idea who we is.

For a start the vector is very different. And I don't doubt there are unknown other attacks. But I'm discussing attacks we know about because they put them in policy papers and legislation.

Absurd discussion


It really shouldn't be easy for ideologues to spend other peoples money. There are entire parallel structures in government, academia and now in business not contributing one iota of effort towards whatever the directed goal of their organisations are principally for.

https://new.nsf.gov/funding/opportunities/dcl-social-behavio...


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