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I somehow agree with this "if your client-side MVC framework does not support server-side rendering, that is a bug. It cripples performance." and it always felt right.


And I thought, I can join whatsapp now. Not a big fan a smart phone so don't have one. Bye Bye whatsapp.


It's not really Bye Bye whatsapp if you aren't using it now?

And it seems like if you would like to use a social networking tool such as Whatsapp, there is at least one reason for you to get a smart phone.

But as they say, different strokes for different folks.


its intermittent.


I would straight forward look for skillsets and productivity(productivity includes guys availability i.e. whatever is needed) and attitude rather than age, Period.


I must agree to the fact that you can not blame addon authors for any slowdown or memory usage.


+1


My intention was not to sound like rant but if I did then it's my bad. I notice the issues with ubuntu a lot and I was big fan of it as mentioned above but not anymore as you know the reason. I get paid for developing application which work on browsers and not make browsers work fast. The point is big number of devs won't be able to give their time to make browsers better but that does not mean they can't say bad is bad.


I'm sorry, but Chrome doesn't work better then Firefox on Ubuntu. Actually, you need to install Chromium instead! You pointed Chrome + Ubuntu, which is not very stable compared with Chromium.

For web development, I think the Dev tools on FF are getting better, so I'm still using Firebug. I often use both Firefox + Chrome and I don't think one is better then another. I do trust Firefox, comparing with Chrome, the latest looks like a bot, maybe google new web spider ? Well, looks like (Urls magically appearing in their list, etc), not sure.

Firefox and Chrome teams are extremely important, they're bringing new stuff all the time, researching, etc! I wouldn't say their work is bad!

If you can't do better, STFU!


What Firefox version do you use? While I would expect from Ubuntu to update firefox regularly.


FF 25.x.x and FF Nightly build 28.0a1 (2013-11-19). I do see some improvements in latest dev builds.


I don't have problems even with 25 version but again that might be very individual: different sites, different projects and etc.

There is one little thing you can do: enable all reporting in Advanced settings if you have not done that yet. Mozilla will get at least some information that might be later used for browser improvements.


Thanks for reminding me the option and yeah with js heavy application/projects FF is not doing well for me atleast.


Yup you are right. But python is a bit on the slower side in comparison to PHP and that is why the dilemma.


The difference in speed between Python and PHP should not be a deciding factor in choosing between the two web frameworks. Many of the core PHP functions are implemented in C directly, so they are very fast, but once you add a framework into the mix, speed drops off considerably because it seems the PHP interpreter is not so good.


Well you can just put your comments. No need to upvote. Not intentional.


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