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I wrote Epiphany WorkFlow (Mac App Store) for my own use to help with the problem I have organizing and sustaining a well directed writing project. With ADHS, this is a big problem with me.


I've been programming for 52 years. I'm still programming and enjoying it. For me the key was focusing on the end product, not on the programming. Programming was just something that I did to get the product I wanted. It is kind of fun, but not that important. When I was inspired to create something new and cool, I was motivated to learn the tools necessary to create that specific product. Then, I moved on. I have forgotten more languages, frameworks, and development environments, etc. than I can remember. They are not important. If you can imagine something neat to make, learning the tools to make it is engaging.


Funny, I'm also relatively old - 50 - and have been programming almost 40 years (if you count typing in zx80-Basic code from magazines...) and I am exactly the same. I love to make things, and programming is often a creative activity where you can quickly build something that is entirely new to the world. I think that's why I like it so much, but I'm pretty uninterested in learning new tech/languages/frameworks just for the sake of knowing them. The only motivation for me is building new things (and getting people to use them). I pick up new tech quickly once I'm forced to, but usually not before then. It usually happens through collaboration with others - they use some tech, which forces me to pick it up in order to work with them, but my only real interest is to build a product and release it onto an unsuspecting world.


100 x this!


Sometimes the way a computer works is a useful model for thinking about your thoughts, but you don't actually think that way. If you believe that you actually do, it can be self-fulfilling, limiting, and even deny your humanity.

You are not a computer, not even close. Unfortunately, we are often temped to think we are. It's a cause of the social disfunction techies are known for. Don't be so self-limiting. To think we are like a computer can be useful, but it can be a crutch.


It’s fairly close to say you are a computer, or at least a cluster. Rather, we are a wet-ware, fault tolerant computer. We have some randomness and unpredictability of course, and these are a function of how fragile and dense the system is.


10 years ago I drove from Tucson to Iowa to buy a 42 year old Avion truck camper. I moved to a homeless camp in Tucson and rebuilt the camper. I regard living in a homeless camp a worthwhile experience.

In the summers I'm a camp host on the banks of a famous trout river in the midst of gold country. I fish, prospect for gold and write independent software for college students. As I can't go to my home in Mexico this winter because of covid-19, I'm currently traveling around southern Arizona looking for gold in old mining district while maintaining my application and learning to draw.

My life has taken on a certain mellow aspect that I cherish. At 74 I don't feel like I'm retired nor like I'm working. I'm living.


One of the funniest things I ever saw was the SV Fry's Store back in the early days. It sold 3 things: electronics, junk food, and makeup. Its makeup section was huge. One can imagine its geeky owners desperate for a chance to meet attractive young women hoping to draw them into the store.


The "early days" didn't have makeup. The first store was a converted Fry's grocery market building off Oakmead, much smaller than a modern supermarket.

The second building, or Kern, was triple the size. The current building on Arques is maybe four times that in area.


The early days in my post were the 1980s


I recently read something that seemed almost nonsensical at first. "Action can precede motivation." In different words it means just start doing the task and the motivation to continue will come to you on it own. I'm sure it doesn't apply to every situation, but I'm finding that there is some truth to it.


I've been programming for 52 years. I've learned a dozen or so languages and OSs. This career requires continued learning of new languages. Otherwise you are just a coder.


Consider Epiphany WorkFlow for the Mac. It's a workflow for writing an academic paper (among other things). I really don't fully understand what you are asking for. I hope Epiphany WorkFlow is useful.


I am sorry, I didn't make my question clear. I was not asking about 'frameworks' as in tools but templates/structures that you use while writing/thinking.


I use Epiphany Workflow on a MacBook Pro. It's easy to extract notes and review both the notes and the source paper later.


Do you sit at a desk or table? My main problem with reading on my Macbook is ergonomics, I think. I am getting old though ... or middle aged at least.


I sit on a narrow couch with a firm seat and back. I place the laptop in my lap. I'm 74, and it works for me.

Incidentally Epiphany Workflow works with web sites as well as files.


Hard right perspectives were always just out of sight revealing themselves only rarely. Presumably, it's the old give it away until they are hooked, then take advantage.


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