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Pretty bold to cry about war crimes while defending the actions of Israel.


Pretty easy though, when Israel is clearly being held to a standard that their combatants aren't.

I'll tell you now: I'm becoming more radicalised the more I see the absolute state of discourse here; it's not only polarised: it's completely asymmetric.

It seems that it's not even possible for people to consider that the Islamic side has a part to play in what is happening, and to condemn both parties for the actions that they take, understanding that it's not equivalent in all areas.


> Pretty easy though, when Israel is clearly being held to a standard that their combatants aren't.

If you look at it binary then both sides committed atrocities, war crimes, and generally acts of terror. If you look at the magnitude though one stands out.

> the Islamic side has a part to play in what is happening

Attempts to defend either are weak, nether is defensible really. But defending the side that took it orders of magnitude further with explanations like well the other side "had a part" are absolutely gross and reminiscent of explanations for certain atrocities a certain European country committed 80 years ago because "they" knew what they did to deserve it right? "They" also had a part to play.


I agree with this sentiment, actually; it's not binary, there's no "both sides", we have to take each atrocity in the context in which it's presented and dispassionately dole out justice. Ideally based on an even field of understanding about what the rules are and without taking personal preferences into account.

But I think we disagree on a core tenet: that magnitude is a precursor to understanding who belligerents are.

If that was the case then during all history, the winning side would always have to be the bad guy, no matter who initiated hostilities or how warfare was conducted.


> Israel is clearly being held to a standard that their combatants aren't.

This statement doesn't make a lot of sense. Israel is an ally we supply with munitions and the other side is acknowledged to be a terrorist militia and therefore we support their destruction. Of course we expect Israel to adhere to a much higher standard than Hezbollah, right?

I think (hope) you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who believes Hezbollah members shouldn't be held accountable for violations of the law of armed conflict. It's just that nobody believes the problem of Hezbollah is going to be solved in a court or with diplomacy at this stage.

> the Islamic side

If you feel the need to worry about the religious angle you really ought to differentiate between Sunni and Shia when talking about Lebanon in particular, given the unique characteristics of their demography and politics. Although I don't know where you're going with that.

> I'm becoming more radicalised

Fantastic.


Sure bud.


Truly a scathing intellectual response.

I will never recover.


The largest cause is the burning of fossil fuels. Who champions that? Who's lobbying to keep us on that form of energy?


> The economy is in perilous shape

I've heard their economy is in perilous shape for years now. The people speaking of the 'coming collapse of china's economy' seem just like perma-bears here.

These assumptions have shown to be wrong, time and time again, but surely the collapse is coming right, if we believe hard enough?


Agreed. I think there’s a lot of people in the US that want to hear stories of China's failure, so the stories are written. Even if they do have a recession, that’s not the end of the world for any other major power it won’t be for China either.


How exactly did they violate the license?


There was no empathy here, only generic HR platitudes. "Your opinion is valid", etc.

That's not empathy.


Many horrible people are 'just doing their jobs'. Think about it a little longer before justifying a persons actions, or assuming they're above repute.


Takeaway seems to be if you receive an invite from a rando HR person, decline that meeting.

Edit: Also PR speak is one of the most unbecoming things I've heard in my life. I know there's HR people here in this thread, so to them: Try to at least act like your human.


Maybe if you combine that approach with hiding under your desk when anyone walks by, it will be literally impossible to fire you.


> Takeaway seems to be if you receive an invite from a rando HR person, decline that meeting.

Uh, you'll still get terminated if you skip the meeting. It's not like that's the One Big Loophole companies don't want you to know.


That’s been my policy for a few years - if HR drop a meeting in my calendar, no matter what it’s for, ignore it until I’ve spoken to my direct manager.

Most of the time it’s been harmless, but there have been a couple of instances early in my career where I really should have had a legal representative before agreeing to anything.


> If it's true and they cracked it, it would mean the final major way Chinese residents can share information outside of government control is gone.

Airdrop was the final way? That sounds unlikely. With iPhone marketshare in China at like 20% I would be surprised if it was even the current primary way, let alone the only way.


They're trolling you dude. Their first comment was just a joke, but people bought in, and now you're being trolled, like in the original sense.


Well, I agree that I'm really bad at arguing, but one thing for sure, it's not a trolling.


The US War in Iraq was not due to misinformation. Misinformation may have sold it to the public, but to give the people responsible for that war a pass, as if they were just mislead, is .. well it's just covering for their actions.


Yes, agreed. Part of my point is that, public or private, it was not driven by facts.


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