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> What's happening to the Appalachian coal miners today is going to happen to tech sooner or later.

How so? Care to elaborate on this?


Basically, I believe the Industrial Revolution started with obsoleting physical labor, because that was simpler, and now efforts to automate will move on to mental and creative labor. Most technical, programming, design and even scientific work will likely become either fully AI driven or else be outsourced to fewer and fewer necessary humans, leading to the same problems of mass layoffs and skills suddenly having little value in an evolving marketplace.


AI hasn’t replaced anyone’s job yet, even low skill workers. Speculating the impact of AI on overall employment is slightly speculative.

I mean there’s a whole generation of CS graduate students focusing their attention babysitting machine learning algorithms.


>Speculating the impact of AI on overall employment is slightly speculative.

... it's kind of entirely speculative by definition, isn't it?


I disagree, our experience with Angular 4 is very good, we are iterating at very high velocity, at a very large scale (Enterprise Tools, Telemetry, Dashboards, Admin tools), and we wouldn't do it any other way. Testing tools are awesome, so the end product is solid if you use them, and with Lazy Loaded Modules + AOT Compilation the applications are very performant.


Fantastic release, congrats to the Angular team!


Welcome to the corporate world, where buzzwords are everything.


Nobody gets health problems from working on side projects, that's a non argument.


Plenty of people get burnt out from side projects that turn out to be bigger than they had the capacity for.


And if it gets too much, they can stop without loss of employment.


Emotions aside and logic in place, it would be easier to say no to someone like this, you're just making it easier for recruiters to filter you out.


Pro tip: don’t do this, use a custom domain name if you want, but never host your own email server.


Nobody cares anymore, everybody moved on to bulma and other things, bootstrap is yesterday's song


Bulma is very far behind.

* Lacks all the JS components

* Lifts from Bootstrap for most of the CSS components, sometimes down to the class name

* Makes the mistakes of early Bootstrap, namely heavily nested classes like .card .media:not(:last-child) that are difficult to overwrite and cause great pain when customizing

* Uses antiquated non-extensible syntax/naming conventions for breakpoints, such as "is-desktop" instead of "small, medium, large" etc

* grid system is not flexible, breakpoints are hardcoded and there's no easy way to generate your own grid

* no mixins I can use in Sass instead of using classes in HTML. There are a few helpers but no way to setup columns without HTML classes (like you can in Bootstrap)

* overall lack of easy customization, no theming tool and very limited variables. in BS almost everything can be customized using Sass variables

It simply isn't as mature or battle-tested as Bootstrap. There's a reason it's not 1.0 yet. BS can do everything Bulma can, the reverse is not true.


Coming from BS3+jQuery, BS3/4 was confusing or obtuse to use the jQuery dependent parts with VueJS (modal being a good example). Most BS+VueJS libraries were incomplete or broken somewhere in the VueJS 1 => 2 shuffle. Bulma was not confusing, it's JS agnosticism being the main reason.


Bootstrap can be used with just the CSS and none of the JS components, although Vue also makes it easy to encapsulate jquery into components. [1]

Tachyons [2] is another CSS framework that basically takes the component approach to the extreme and makes all styles separate, like bootstrap being made of only utilities.

1. https://vuejs.org/v2/examples/select2.html

2. http://tachyons.io/


Gonna need a source on that. Bootstrap is the most widely used CSS framework by a country mile.

Bootstrap has more stars (117k) on GitHub than the next 6 CSS frameworks combined: https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=css+framework&s=stars&typ...

FWIW Bulma is third with 20.4k. And I’m legit going to check it out now that, you know, I’ve heard of it ;)

Of course, GitHub stars aren’t everything, and momentum is important, but to say no one cares is objectively wrong. This is a big deal for a large swath of the industry.


what if someone in the room is named alexa


Then you change Alexa to one of the other options (Amazon, Echo, Computer)


> And may in the end even find your "spaghetti" version is actually more performant at run time

not with those O(N^2) loops it ain't


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