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Some regions could require you to have a paid account or something, like what Zenmate does.


True, especially for Facebook games. Majority of them are female. Though hardcore PC gamers and console gamers are still male in majority.


You wouldn't have Facebook, Google, Hacker news, Twitter or even Internet without programmers.


Built by suckers!


It says functionality is represented in a wireframe. Doesn't wireframe simply shows structure? That is, which elements goes where. The functionality is shown in a prototype.


Mateusz Warcholinski mentioned Balsamiq[1] as an example of his definition for a "wireframe" tool.

Therefore, instead of trying to parse his description of "wireframe", it may be better to just look at Balsamiq's capabilities: https://balsamiq.com/

To me, it looks like his idea of wireframe is something "clickable" ... such that it launches another fake page, but not functional. A Balsamiq/wireframe tool is something non-programmers like designers and business leads could use to communicate a UX/UI.

[1]Mateusz Warcholinski wrote: "My favourite tool to do it: Balsamiq"


I use Balsamiq, and I quite like it. It is a wireframe tool, but also more. My typical workflow is to do the wireframe and get it approved, import images into the wireframe to turn it into a mockup and get that approved, then use the mockup to implmenent the prototype. I like that I can simulate functionality in the wireframe and mockup. In fact, I typically don't even know how I will implement the prototype until the mockup is complete with simulated functionality, because that's what I'll use to determine the implementation (for new projects only, of course).


Tad snarky.


I didn't intend it to be. I advised the questioner to simply do what I did myself : ignore the definition that Mateusz Warcholinski wrote which is open to misinterpretation (as this HN thread shows and Mateusz has acknowledged) and simply go to balsamiq.com.

After studying Balsamiq, work backwards from that to get an idea of what he meant by "wireframe" and whether or not it has "functionality".


You cannot define a structure without it implicitly acknowledging what functionality archetype will be associated with it. For example, even in a most basic wireframe of a web app if a wireframe showed a left column about 20% wide and 100% height anyone with any experience in software will instantly assume a hierarchical menu of some design.

I would agree they aren't tightly coupled but there is definitely an association there that can't be completely separated.


You could argue that Wireframe shows functionality, whereas Prototype tests functionality.


Exactly. As long as you share a common language in your team, and with your client, it doesn't really matter.

If someone says "I need a wireframe/mockup/prototype" then clarify exactly what they are looking for - functionality? layout? content?


That makes sense.


I think this is a good move. Whether it can solve terrorism issue or not that does not mean the government can't even try.


How would this solve terrorism?


I never said it will solve terrorism. I said it's a good thing that government is trying at least.


How is gathering more data on citizens a good thing?

Do you want to live in a police state? How will this benefit European people?

This rubbish is what leads to civil wars. You (and people like you) think you should know everything about everyone. People fought and died to protect Europeans from that.

You want to go back to fighting for basic rights that were hard won with peoples blood.


It's a good thing for data farmers, marketeers and opressors in power. Remember who the governments are beholden to and their actions(elimination of anonymity, TPIP et al, constant surveillance) all make sense... from their perspective.

*Posted from my pre-elop nokia w/ a an anon SIM.


How about we put you in jail? You might be a terrorist, so at least we are trying to stop terrorism!

If not, why not?


Shouldn't the government be trying things that are expected to work? Otherwise this is just another example of the Politician's Fallacy.


Exactly. It's good to see that young people today are taking interest in coding, be it a girl or a boy that doesn't matter.


The point is we are deliberately trying to eliminate their existence and we will be directly responsible for that.


See my second reference to the Thylacine. We deliberately tried to eliminate that creature and succeeded.


I can live with that


Also, real estate.


I thought Arabs are really good at investing money. The tall buildings in Dubai and Saudi Arabia had Arab investors.


I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.

I live in the Gulf right now, and hang out with investment professionals occasionally. The prevailing opinion appears to be that local investors are shrewd at a tactical level, but terrible at long term planning because of a tendency to go after flashy, high risk/high return prestige projects.

There is also the distinct lack of local sophistication: almost all investors are reliant on non-local agents for due diligence and investment lead generation. I guarantee that this is going to come back to bite them down the road: incentives need to be aligned, and right now, they simply aren't.


> Almost all investors are reliant on non-local agents for due diligence and investment lead generation.

Is this for deals happening outside the Gulf (i.e. buying London or NYC property), or for all kinds of transactions, even within the Gulf?


If you look at the staff of the various SWFs, they're mostly western citizens. There are various Arabization programs afoot, but the dearth of local talent to manage these massive pools of cash means that most of these programs are DOA. For the forseeable future, they'll be reliant on western/foreign expertise and talent to get most foreign deals done.

I suspect that the same thinking that causes them to hire cheap migrant labor to build out their infrastructure operates at a higher form where finance is concerned.

It'll be interesting to see where these programs go over the next few years.


I seriously thought that Arabs were good at investment, especially in real estate. For example, the Saudi Binladin Group.


There's more than one asset class, and real estate isn't always the best one.


Especially in an unstable region


>>Patients had been infected through the sterilized scalpels and endoscopes.

For someone who had an endoscope recently, that's really scary.


I mean, people were also at times infected with HIV and Hepatitis C from blood transfusions, but we realized the risk and took steps to mitigate it.


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