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I wonder how likely Trumps assumption, that Russia or China will take it if he doesn't, is..

Take it? You mean go to war with NATO over Greenland?

impossible, like war for Cyprus

I wonder if that was a joke or not. :)

If serious: agree, Russia or China won't take Greenland.


A bit different, nether Russia nor China are NATO members like Turkey and Greece

Zero. Denmark belongs to the EU and NATO, and Greenland has always had a significant NATO military presence to deter any possible threat.

We already have military bases there and I'm sure Greenland wouldn't have cared if we asked for a few more. This is all to stroke someone's ego and get their name in a history book.

1. The U.S. has multiple bases in Greenland. Denmark, and NATO are also present.

2. Russia can't even expand their presence to Ukraine (not a NATO memeber).

3. China has no access.

So, 0%.


Currently USA only has one base left: Pituffik Space Base (previously called Thule Air Base). They used to have about 17 bases and several thousand military personnel, but now it's down to about 200. If USA wanted it, they could establish all the bases they wanted and send more people, but they chose to cut down on military presence over the past years. Source: Have worked on that last base several years ago. Also check wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base

The real problem is so many in the Trump base thinks "America Bigger? Trump good."

They do not really care until the United States takes Greenland. Or NATO outright attacks Russia. Then they do care.

Because controlling Greenland means whoever has it gets excessive control over the Arctic Sea. And both parties, but especially Russia, do not want a party like the United States to have this amount of control given the Arctic is in their backyard.


That sounds reasonable but it's not IMHO. What kind of control is that?

The US had military bases in Greenland when Soviet nukes had to be delivered with bombers flying over Greenland.

When ICBMs became a thing, those bases weren't as important anymore.


I'm not talking about military strength, I am talking about shipping lanes.

Something you can already see in Venezuela as we speak: The Trump Administration has essentially blocked countries like Russia and Iran to ship oil from Venezuela.

If they capture Greenland and can build a big Naval presence there they are in a great position to confiscate every cargo ship destined to Russian harbors in the north, and close off China's trading route in the Arctic aswell.


Right. A phone call to Denmark => big Naval presence.

What's the problem? Denmark would have welcomed a big Naval presence in Greenland. It benefits them too.

It should have been:

    America: can we have a big Naval base in Greenland?

    Denmark: sure. 100 year agreement?

It could have been:

    America: give us big Naval base in Greenland or we will annex you!

    Denmark: Eh... sure, are you alright?
We got:

    America: we will annex you.

In modern world if you want to estimate validity of the message it's a better heuristic to consider the source than the message itself.

Today, the US can defend Greenland as part of NATO, and would have the support of the other NATO nations.

About 0%. China really has no serious interest in Greenland, and Russia isn't going to trigger direct confrontation with NATO. At least, unless NATO splinters, which is looking somewhat likely now with this foolish US administration.

Russia and China are just made-up excuses for Trump to do what he wants to do: steal territory, at gunpoint if needed.


Lets just say that Russia or China does some surprise attack and lands a bunch of troops in Greenland.

OK, great, they've got troops in Greenland. Now they have to keep them supplied. How are they going to do that? Well, either through the air or by sea.

Does either have a navy that can do that? No. Does either have an air force that can do that against US opposition? No.

So it's really unlikely. Even if China or Russia were stupid enough to do that, they could never hold it.

Now, perhaps the more interesting question: How likely does Trump think it is? Does he think it's real, despite the absurd impossibility of it? Or is he just saying fact-free stuff that he hopes some people will believe?


If spam filtering counts as "AI" then yes

I doubt it does given the spam filtering has again, been there for 2 decades.

We’ve had AI for decades, just not the kind of low-value, high-priced slop generators that are synonymous with AI today.

I assume Google just wants to rebrand Bayesian analysis as “AI” so it can claim it’s been doing that for decades.


PR can be a lot of bang for your buck.

https://paulgraham.com/submarine.html


But can't be bothered to avoid Palantir or Microsoft.. that would be TOO tough! Learn all those new buttons (once) and that confusion with ~ instead of C:\. Oh the difficulties! :D

Your analogy kind of falls on its face considering `C:\` is `/` not `~` which would be `%USERPROFILE%`.

How do I get to d:\apps from c:\

It depends on your shell. I think MINGW bash has `/mnt`? maybe it's just `/c`, `/d`, etc.? but for cmd, it's the command `cd D:\apps && D:` and powershell handles it gracefully with one command for drive changing `cd D:\apps`

So cd /path/to/ and cd /d c:\path\to\d:\path\?

Until China decides they don't want to sell to them that is.

FeatureToggles.swift



It's not clear what the US plan even is. Move all manufacturing back home and compete with China ASAP?


Even if it’s a goal, it’s not a plan. The article talks about it, but Biden’s push for manufacturing wasn’t very aggressive, and Trump has basically stopped it. We’ve seen a loss in manufacturing jobs from tariffs and Trump idiotically deported Korean engineers working in local battery production plants. Simply protecting our existing companies (which are not very efficient, see shipbuilders) is not even close to enough to competing


With trump at the helm, do you think there is much of a plan?


The US doesn't have a plan, it has a framework. The framework allows it to be nimble in a way that centralized economies (like China) can never match. My money's on the US out-competing everyone else in the long run.


I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or if you are serious. The USA’s framework is to just wish for things to happen and then be surprised when those things don’t happen. There is basically no executing plan beyond grifting money to a few corporations because they supported the president during the election.


Seriously, and we have one of the most centrally planned economies in existence, it's just controlled by the elites rather than through democratic norms as it was during the new deal coalition.


Plan?

They don't even have a concept of a plan.


The "US plan," is driven by the executive office. That is to say, the by the US president.

Insofar as there is any plan, the current officeholder's priorities are to project the appearance of personal power on television. If you're wondering what's going on strategically, don't go thinking that there's some grand plan, or even an intention to benefit the United States in the long term. There are some people in the cabinet who are thinking long term, but that's not universal, and that's not what they're selected for. Every action that is taken is to satisfy the president's narcissism and ego in the present moment. You have to understand the "US plan" in this light for anything coming out of the executive office to make sense.


The US plan is to enrich oligarchs who are friendly with Trump and to enact white nationalist policies.

Anything beyond that is just like a kid playing an arcade game without putting any quarters in.


It all falls into place if you contemplate the possibility that there is no US.

There's stock market bros, kill people bros, government welfare bros and some mega business bros.

None of them want to know anything beyond my kids go to private school, get nepo baby job.

This is what humans are capable of - not just in USA, as a species. USA's 'plan' or rather inevitability is to fall apart. China will be the next power and it'll also fall apart, like USSR fell apart and USA is falling apart for the world to see.

Maybe in another few thousand years it'll be different, I doubt it. Read Plato's Republic you're above 140 IQ - it spells it all out so nicely that one you grok it, you need not know much of anything else regarding politics.


Tired of this kind of talk. Everybody is looking for a scapegoat. For some it's China, for others the billionaires, yet others suspect it's all the Jews' fault, or the European Union, or wokeness, or Donald Trump or or or.. sigh, it's not new, it's just boring, and it rarely leads to any good things.


American cinema is awash with special effects since Jurassic park or so .. with a few good films in between :)


Social media businesses for sure have seen benefits


for sure, but I am interested in the actual use-case and some real world examples and statistics about the value AI provides. Like, +50% social media post engagement which leads to +X% revenue.


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