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IANAL,but naming your product S2 and mentioning in the intro that AWS S3 is the tech you are enhancing is probably looking for a branding/copyright claim from Amazon. Same vertical & definitely will cause consumer confusion. I'm sure you've done the research about whether a trademark has been registered.

https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98324800&caseSearchType=U...


Fun fact: S2 and EC2 sound exactly the same in Spanish - both are "ese dos". Add that to EC2 and S3 already being confusing to tell apart by ear

Only for you lot of Thouth-american thpanish thpeakerth.

not for non latin american speakers.

TBF, building something with the goal of enhancing S3 I would call it S4.

Thats short term thinking. you need to leapfrog everybody and go s∞

That’s actually a pretty cool name if you pronounce the first letter the letter sound rather than as an initial: Sinfinity

Sounds more like a porn website...

Very responsive log porn. ;-)

My aging eyes just pronounced it "sooooo"

Too late, name's taken for something else: https://incubator.apache.org/projects/s4.html

And don't forget the other S4: http://www.supersimplestorageservice.com/

It's like S3, except better because, by focusing on being a write-only data store, they can manage much more throughput and efficiency, plus your data is far more secure at rest than it is in S3.


How about the other other S4 https://adv-r.hadley.nz/s4.html

I would really like to know how many people send money through that paypal link

Try clicking on it.

Ah, thank you :)

why not s11?

S3++ ? T4?

My company is a Fivetran client, and they named that company after a (bad) joke, but it's worth a fortune.


Fivetran is going to zero because they don’t offer anything of actual value and their CEO isn’t a good person.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42434450


F3 - (Fast Furious Fail-Safe)

At least cloudflare’s R2 has an argument for the naming (IBM vs HAL, A Space Odyssey)

I'm not sure whether they consulted a bad trademark lawyer or didn't consult one at all, but it wouldn't have cost that much to do so. I say this having just recently started the process of filing a trademark - the cost is about the same as buying i.e. 's4.dev' according to the domain registry's website.

Having to rebrand your product after launching is a lot more painful than doing it before launching.


OR

Amazon just builds the same thing, calls it S3 Streams, and doesn’t care about S2.

Maybe they make a buyout offer.

I highly doubt they would sue.


Trademark law encourages companies to defend their marks. If they don’t, they may lose the trademark. So Amazon has to write these guys a letter if it wants to defend the s3 trademark.

Amazon might write a letter, but if the tech is solid, they’ll probably just work with them.

s3 (serverless stream store)

What could possibly be better than being sued by Amazon for some nitpicky naming Issue ?

That’s the kind of David vs. Goliath publicity one could only dream of …


98% of the time, law suits are just a money pit. There is zero publicity. A tiny number go viral. I don't think this is likely to be one of those times.

Most people would simply say "Amazon is right." Because Amazon is right. This is an intentional attempt to leverage their product branding to promote a new product. There is very little good here.

If this were open-source, academic, non-profit, or something like that, perhaps. A small venture trying to commercialize on some digital equivalent of Amazon's trade dress? I can't imagine anyone would care....

Even those times when someone is 100% right, usually, there is zero publicity. Right or wrong, most times I've seen, the small guy would settle with the big guy with the deep legal pockets and move on because litigating is too expensive.

In a situation like this one, your marketing spend / press coverage on the existing name is shot, links to your domain are shot, and perhaps you have an egg on your face, depending on how things play out.


Yep, letter S and a number is copyrighted, can't do that

1) we're talking about trademark law, not copyright law.

2) the problem here is that they're in the same business segment, and explicitly reference S3.


S3. But trademark law prevents subtle variations.

E.g. creating a product called “Gooogle”


I think this issue better addressed in HTML spec. Basic functionality to include html snippets files in other HTML files should be standard. What am I missing?


Well, the HTML spec is missing that, has been for decades despite people asking for it, and to my knowledge has never even made it to a roadmap.


How would that work? Now one request for a page becomes N requests for every bit of HTML the client needs to render?


That’s sorta the case with frames and asynchronously loaded stuff anyway though right? I think they just consider the problem solved in practice through scripting and frames. Besides, HTML doesn’t have room for that— they need room for all the features nobody uses and cares about. XD I’ve been writing HTML to some extent for 30 years and I periodically come across shit— not even new shit— that I swear I’ve never even heard of.


> That’s sorta the case with frames and asynchronously loaded stuff anyway though right?

Yeah, and that's not something to emulate. And if so, it sort of already exists in the spec: iframe.


I’m not sure how it could possibly make the problem worse if the problem is already endemic to modern websites in a form far more heavily used than that ever would be.


You could cache the intermediate bits. Hell you could do this right now (somewhat) by doing script src=menubar.js and the script containing document.write calls. Not great for performance.


Wouldn't that just ends up re-inventing XML and <xsl:include> ?


It is - it is called frames.


To think I had 17 BTC at one point :-)


Sorry, is Hetzner a company from Canada, China, or Mexico? Are digital goods & services indicated to be under tariff as well?


Ah my bad. Tariffs not implemented yet, and restricted to those areas. Might have been a bad choice of word by hetzner


lol not discord. we are in IRC.


Where? I miss IRC so badly, but don't know where to go there.


I run a small network, but this might come across as advertising. It’s been running for 20 years now.

People come and go, but its wild how the community spirit largely remains, even with significant changes in the lifestyle of the people that have been frequenting the network for a large segment of that time.

anyway, the network is:

* ircs://irc.darkscience.net:6697/darkscience

* https://darkscience.net

* https://www.darkscience.net/webirc/


Same. I'm just 'floating around' now. Good times in #startups ages ago.


Liberal chat. We're also on discord and Mastodon.


Libera chat*


By that same logic, Safari is the #1 browser on mobile in the US and should also be spun off.


I wonder if there should be some scaling for extreme hot/cold countries. Most of our output here in Canada must be related to heating during our 6 months of cold climate.


Electricity and heat is indeed the largest sector by emissions in Canada (about a quarter) [1]. Though depends on where you are. In BC all electricity is hydropower, and if you have electric heating, your emissions are close to zero.

Transport is also about a quarter. So Canada can indeed cut emissions in half with present day tech by fixing these two sectors. Still a long way to go.

Also note that Estonia is at 7.3t, Finland 5.6t, Sweden 3.5t (Sweden was 8.6t in 1980). So climate is not really an excuse. It is just politics.

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-emissions-by-sector?t...


There’s lots of inefficiencies all around in Canada. Poor insulation, too much suburbanization, not enough heat pumps. Transportation is also very inefficient (not enough public transit, too much suburbanization, not enough rail).

Tar sands are an issue, as is other oil.


coughwirecuttercough


Would love to hear a bit about the tech stack or engine you used (if any)!



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