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I'm not going to go into details as I don't want to create a throwaway account for HN, but I can attribute a lot of people's feelings in dating apps to a few things. I got an email from Bumble a few years ago that said I was in the top x percent of people swiped on.

If you try to brute force stats your way to dating apps, you will fail.... to some extent.

A lot of this comes down to looks that you can control, and looks that you cannot control. Some people are born better looking than others and when you spend less than a second filtering people, the first factor you use is looks. That said, not everyone is looking for the same qualities so ymmv, but better looking people find dating apps much easier.

Throwing money at apps works. I'm not going to go into details because my opinion is not based on anything other than my opinion, but I found that the more I spent on the apps, the more dates I would get.

Modern dating when compared to traditional dating offline is not even the same thing. Ghosting and talking romantically to multiple people is normal. You can't let yourself get emotionally attached to anyone until you actually know them or expect anything from them.

I've heard horror stories from both men and women from online dating, and I've only had great exeriences from it. Some people find me attractive, and at the time I was very active and fit, so I usually got past the swipe test. I'm honest with myself and ok with my flaws. I'm also comfortable in social situations which helps me talk to new people.

I think crunching the numbers in this style only looks at a binary 'reality' of dating apps and not what you can do to help yourself and other factors that can lead you to what you ultimately want from partnership, or relationships or physical comfort or whatever else lead you to online dating.


>I've heard horror stories from both men and women from online dating, and I've only had great exeriences from it. Some people find me attractive, and at the time I was very active and fit, so I usually got past the swipe test.

How old are you / how long ago was this? I've been active on-and-off on the apps for the past year; and once you are over the hump of getting consistent matches I feel like the apps create poor behavior that really isn't measured by these companies.

I think being stuck in "situationships" is something that doesn't come out of the data but is caused by dating apps. It's very hard for me to get people to commit (or worse, just give me a hard no), which led me to casting a wider net. Potential partners are reluctant to tell me "I don't like you", and will either ghost or just keep playing along because it's something to do. I started to adjust my behavior by dating multiple people at a time - this eased the sting of wasting time on someone but then I became less sure if I wanted to commit to someone (e.g. I need a date to event X, I'll give Alice 2 weeks, and she doesn't respond so I ask Bobette day of, which pisses Bobette off because she feels like a second option).

I've also had issues where women rarely advertise upfront what they want is a hookup (for obvious reasons), but then I spend 2-3 weeks courting a woman who doesn't have the guts to tell me she didn't see a future with me.

If your goal is a long term relationship, even if you get matches, it's still a mess and I feel the whole rating curve distracts from that.


When everyone is dating everyone else, this essentially creates a tragedy of the common where no one wants to commit because they see better options always, but ironically, no one person will find their best option and have that best option also find them as the best option too.


And statistically, if you are short, you have absolutely no chance on dating apps I assume.

I am short. I have never been on a dating app. The first time I was single as an adult out of college was between 1996-2002 so they weren’t really a thing and the second time I was single between 2006-2011 and wasn’t looking at dating anyone.


> I got an email from Bumble a few years ago that said I was in the top x percent of people swiped on.

Was this humble brag relevant to the rest of your point?


What sucks nowadays is picture filters can't tell what's real I guess until you meet them


6 out of 10 male here (on looks), if that. Got about 300 matches, because I understand social systems and have a hacker mindset. Ultimately, met my wife after 30 dates. Didn't expect that.

> Throwing money at apps works. I'm not going to go into details because my opinion is not based on anything other than my opinion, but I found that the more I spent on the apps, the more dates I would get.

I've experienced that too.

> Modern dating when compared to traditional dating offline is not even the same thing. Ghosting and talking romantically to multiple people is normal. You can't let yourself get emotionally attached to anyone until you actually know them or expect anything from them.

Similar experience.


> Got about 300 matches

Number of people I'm interested * Number of people who respond

(1 / 60) * (1 / 60) = 3600 people to get one match.

Times 300 = 1.08 million profiles I'd have to view.

Maybe you like 1 of 6? (is it that high, for most people I don' think so). And you manage to get a response from 1 of 10 (because I'd expect the other side to also be at best 1 of 6 + less likely to respond)

So, that's basically saying you went through a minimum of 18k profiles to get your 300 matches.

Did you get 300 matches or is that just a statement that you did well and the numbers aren't actual numbers?


> (1 / 60) * (1 / 60) = 3600 people to get one match.

What are those numbers? According to the article, those numbers should be (1 / 4) * (1 / 25) if we use the median man randomly matching with the median woman, respectively.

Those numbers will trend much higher, if both of them are attractive, of course. In the long tails plottet for the article, there are still quite a number of men 1 out of 3 woman will like, and there's plenty of woman 9 out of 10 men will like.


I swiped about 200k profiles during the time I was on the Tinder [1]

The matches and swipes are rough estimated, but are accurate enough

I don't know the statistics of the blog post, I'm just stating my experience


I feel like they would make a killing if they made a pro version that would be able to dock into a simplified desktop. I’ve been wanting this for years. They love taking a semi cooked idea and polishing it and this could make Samsung dex look like a child’s tool. I think a lot of this community would be interested in something like that. I like what they did with CarPlay, now they just need office play.


You, me and the general market are completely different. Apple’s problem is their decreasing sales in China, which has been one of the biggest contributors to their revenue and profits. China has been successfully reinventing its image among locals, and “western products” are less prestigious nowadays. I mean, they still are, but people are more willing to spend an equivalent price for Chinese products.


Because some are actually superior. Especially folding phones out of China are well ahead.


I've wanted the same for a long time. The ability to dock my phone and let it drive a display and desktop. Not because I think it would be better at it, but because it already has my stuff.


Google Pixels are heading in this direction, with Pixel 8 supporting USB-c DisplayPort Alt Mode and Android working on Debian Linux VMs.

Hopefully Pixel Tablet 3 will challenge Apple iPad Pro with Linux VMs, https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-tablet-3-power....


You can connect an iPhone to a USB-C monitor and a bluetooth keyboard already. It just kind of sucks.


> You can connect an iPhone to a USB-C monitor and a bluetooth keyboard already. It just kind of sucks.

Because Apple refuses to allow it to be a computer. They don’t want the iPhone consuming their MacBook sales. If Apple really cared about the environment, they’d replace the iPad mini, the iPhone, and the MacBook Air with a foldable, dockable iPhone that gave access to the underlying system just like a laptop.


this is part of a very obvious change they could make to separate the device from the monitor/view capabilities, and have it connect to other apple products and communicate. The reality is that its not an easy thing to do and they would have to create something very new to be able to do it. Don't hold your breath. They actually decreased OS capabilities of the device when they went to mobile intentionally and they have no incentive to increase capabilities.

Apple has come a long way from people waiting outside the stores for products of the future to charging $200 more every release for an extra 2 mega pixel on the camera. They are over due for some disruption. Hopefully, someone sees the opportunity.


> not an easy thing .. create something very new

Some building blocks exist:

  - earlier iPadOS shipped with a hypervisor
  - M3 supports nested virtualization
  - Apple recently allowed UTM to (slowly) run Win/Linux VMs on iOS
  - VM streaming protocols are widely used on Windows and Linux
Google Pixel, Qualcomm Oryon or Nvidia Arm PCs with mainline Linux support would bring needed competition.


I’ve wanted this with an iPad for years. A proper mouse, higher resolution and a few UI tweaks and it replaces a laptop for most people.

I assume it’s just to stop it cannibalising other product sales.


Why would you want to do this with an iPad? That's just a laptop without the accessories. A phone fits in your pocket and you have it with you anyway.


Because an ipad pro is viable as a monitor. With a phone you would need an external monitor.


I know but why an iPad and not a laptop? A phone has it's drawbacks yes, but is a very big tradeoff of always being with you, and being tiny. What does an iPad offer over just a laptop?


An iPad is more portable and lighter and cheaper than a MacBook. On some days I would like to use a tablet for much of my day (between meetings, checking emails) and switch to a laptop like experience for an hour or so.


Samsung had this for years and people are generally uninterested. I love the thought to have the _possibility_ of plugging the phone in a USB-C dock and everything works, but honestly, I have done this... like, zero+1 times. For those times I'd need my proper desktop OS, and mobile apps / file handling etc. are just inferior.


Well unlike Samsung, Apple has a great user friendly “proper” desktop environment they could teach their mobile devices to run. Plug iPhone into a USB-C monitor and get a full macOS computer and I’d have no complaints.

Now, they never will because it just doesn’t seem like their style to give users more capabilities on iOS/iPadOS devices. Even if they put the macOS stuff in a container or VM so there’s a strong security boundary.


I think Apple might be worried it would cannibalise some of their other products like the iPad.

I've liked the idea since the Dex as well, but I feel like there is a product segmentation reason that makes them hesitant.


I basically couldn’t disagree more. This feature would be useful to you and me but to the other 95% of their customers it’s just more feature bloat they’ll never use.


> they would make a killing > dock into a simplified desktop > could make Samsung dex look like a child's toy

is this a pure blind fanboy comment? because even my years old second hand Samsung phone streaming to a TV (without dex) with Termux without root is more capable than your shitty & shinning iPad, let alone a 137 megapixel iPhone Max Pro that barely can sideload an app

edit: fuck the Android too, i just use this shit because society obligates me to (Whatsapp, non-tech friends on Instagam etc.)


for what it's worth, I've when gnome moved from version 2, I was completely lost. I went to xfce for a while then settled on kde for a long time but when I reformatted a machine to have to the side of my work laptop, I used pop_os just to test it out. It is on par with ubuntu as being a complete cohesive operating system. I'm excited to see where they take it and without knowing much about them, I'm a supporter.


I moved from lastpass to bitwarden also, but I don't see the reason to move to apple passwords. I'm mostly linux at home, and I use the bitwarden browser plugins for chrome and firefox. I wonder how they plan to integrate browsers, since I imagine they won't have a linux app. Historically, they haven't written great windows apps, so I wonder how this will fair.


I’ve been happy with tasmota but I imagine that this would serve the same purpose.


It is a lot more configurable than Tasmota, but a lot harder to do it.


Begun, the clone wars have.


I tried to get this to work multiple times around 2004. This might be where I first dove into linux. I gave up every time. I ended up using windows media center which worked flawlessly for years. I moved on to plex and a hdtvhomerun when they released it (it handles deleting old series, etc). About a year ago I realized I don't really watch live TV anymore and unplugged it.


Similar for me, except I got it working after tens of hours invested. After wasting time with nonstandard hardware, I got a Hauppauge PVR series capture card with hardware MPEG2 encoding. That made all the difference.

I was in college at the time and had free HBO on the dorm cable network, plus completely unfiltered 100mbps ethernet throughout the campus. It was fun to have a "DIY Tivo" server that could automatically remove commercials and make my library available to my suitemates.


In case this resonates with anyone else's nostalgia, the highlight of my time with MythTV was setting up a system to automatically transcode episodes of selected shows to 320x250 for my iPod video which I could then sync and watch on a plane. Heady stuff for 2005-2006.


Similar for me but I never made a serious attempt at MythTV because I never had dedicated hardware in those days. So I ended up installing XP MCE on my main machine (you could minimize/exit Media Center and it was just plain Windows underneath).

Used that for a while then went down the XBMC path (for windows..pre-Kodi for a while). Ended up with a Boxee Box (first real dedicated hardware). Then moved to Plex hosted on a Windows Home Server with various clients over the years (Sony NSZ-GS7 Google TV, OG Chromecast, Nexus Player, one of the older FireTVs, Chromecast Ultra).

The Home Server died so I moved to UnRaid with containerized Plex. Had a HDHomeRun Prime integrated with Plex for a bit. But dropped cable in favor of streaming TV services. That's the closest I ever got to a MythTV setup.


I learned most of what I know about Linux trying over years to set up and maintain a MythBuntu box


Same here. Tried multiple times, but it was just too rough.

I ended up creating a barebones DVR from scratch in FreeBSD, which I was more familiar with than Linux. I kept adding incremental features over the next few years, until it was a very usable system, and exactly suitable for my needs.

Then the internet became fast enough to stream and download content, and the old workhorse ended up in a closet somewhere.


I'm amazed at my own programming progress over the past 10 years. I used to read these posts in awe of how people knew how to do such fascinating things that seemed so magical to me. 5 years ago I got myself a raspberry pi and an Arduino starter kit and just started playing around with them. I learned python by practicing on leetcode and other sites and I'm able to recognize a lot of libraries and patterns in his code. It's a bit less magical but I have a much more refined appreciation for posts like this.


Next step is realizing that most code is a liability and you will begin to loathe anything "smart". I'm at this step right now. I'm curious if any graybeard out there can share what the next step is.

I don't even want smart electrical outlets.


It's the natural progression I think.

- Step 1. Know nothing about computer technology, and think it's magic.

- Step 2. Begin to learn about computer technology, and think it's fascinating.

- Step 3. Learn a lot about computer technology, and lose your trust in most developers/engineers that aren't yourself, and avoid said technology.


This is extremely accurate in my experience (besides trusting only myself, I don’t even trust myself). In general, the engineers I work with are much less “techie” than a lot of people I know outside of work.


I wonder about this all the time. In the past 5 years I've learned a lot of IoT projects, electronics, arduino. I've played around with linux for decades, but my passion was originally music.

I went down the music path but the money was awful. It taught me how to apply myself to different projects, and I don't love tech as much as I love music, but it allows me to have the freedom to do other things, which I also love.


was it due to the core or a plugin?


very vanilla wordpress, it was a basic blog site. I think the only plugins I used were google analytics and some basic theme. I would keep it updated whenever I remember but maybe it wasn't often enough. Not exactly sure what the vector was and from whatever quality of analysis I did, the system didn't appear damaged beyond the changes made to the wordpress folder and luckily, the damage didn't seem to escape the www-data user that the http server ran as.


I'm gunna suggest compromised hosting. The issues I've seen (once plugins / core / php is up to date and obvious stuff sorted) has been almost entirely on shared hosts.


Php is a beast of an attack surface. On every php install I try to do as much hardening as I can, especially with `disable_functions`, since you can make it much harder for someone to get a useful reverse shell, or other nasty things, like the built in `shell_exec` function.

https://www.madirish.net/?article=229

I'm betting most WordPress shared hosting doesn't do that, nor give people the means to set up a web app firewall in front of it. Without these things I'd never want to expose a WordPress install to the internet :)


Oh, interesting, indeed could have been php.


his admin creds were probably

admin / abcd123!


Guessing passwords? You don't even have to try that hard. Have you seen the list of WordPress CVEs?

Here is one just from January of this year,

https://www.debian.org/security/2022/dsa-5039

"Several vulnerabilities were discovered in Wordpress, a web blogging tool. They allowed remote attackers to perform SQL injection, run unchecked SQL queries, bypass hardening, or perform Cross-Site Scripting (XSS) attacks."


Sure have! Mentioning the admin creds were more so tongue in cheek because there are a lot of folks who use the default 'admin' username.


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