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> They are prone to nervous breakdown, social withdrawal, and anxiety if anyone within earshot goes outside of the guard rails for acceptable speech.

I say this with sincerity: I have met precisely zero young people who I think come anywhere close to this description over the last decade.

I’ve seen it in the online world, yes, but this tends to amplify the very very small minority who (on the surface) appear to fit your description. And I see it across all age ranges and political persuasions.


I've seen it in person once with a former coworker, everything created anxiety, everything was problematic, she spent her entire time looking for a reason to be offended (especially tenuously on behalf of someone else). It was exhausting trying to work with her. She took so much time off too, at very short notice, as she just couldn't cope with working that day.

Yeah I have come across it too, I have also met examples like the woman you describe. But we don't really have to rely on personal anecdotes. The rise of anxiety in young people over the last 20 years is well documented. Someone who's really determined to pick holes in this will say that doesn't prove causality, it could be multivariate or it could be other things completely, and they're right, we're probably not going to find a gold standard scientific study proving my point. But if someone thinks this increase in anxiety is not tied to how people react to speech, online and off, or if they try to handwave it away as unconnected to the broader social change I'm describing, they're being obstinate or they're trying to protect their sacred cows... for another example we have many many people of all political leanings (including apolitical) these days talking about how they've disappeared from public social media and retreated into private chat groups because the public discourse is just too dangerous. That is cancel culture. It is real. It has had precisely the deleterious effect on society which I described.

> The rise of anxiety in young people over the last 20 years is well documented

Sure - but I'd argue that's due to the overall unhealthy aspects of internet use and not specifically 'cancel culture'.

The internet has become a constant stream of something that is simultaneously designed to maintain your attention and engagement ( control you ), and sell you stuff ( control you ).


I’m trying to figure out if you’re asking a leading question and if so, in which direction…


Since I live in the USA it seems reasonable to ask for others’ views.


We could make the distinction between price discovery, i.e. what price are people currently willing to buy and sell at (short-term) vs value discovery (long-term).


In the short term the market is a blockchain-enabled voting machine but in the long term it's an Elon Musk tweet-weighing machine.


Perhaps the best source would now be the statistics of LLM queries, if they were available.

Edit: I see they raise this point at length themselves in TFA.


I’d go further than the other reply: not only do those first two things definitely exist, they probably represent the plurality of programming tasks.


I assume the original reply was addressing the “never” in this specific point:

“The fact is most ordinary mortals never get access to a fraction of that kind of power”


The most obvious difference (and one worth much more than $10 to me) is that one is native and the other is not.


I am also constantly astonished.

That said, observing attempts by skeptics to “unsuccessfully” prompt an LLM have been illuminating.

My reaction is usually either:

- I would never have asked that kind of question in the first place.

- The output you claim is useless looks very useful to me.


Perhaps you could fill in a few of the details for us?


I’m not sure how this relates to the point raised.


The question was why Hegseth got into that position. The now deleted comment speculated, perhaps in a clumsy fashion, why polarizing, incompetent but loyal figures can be useful for a permanent bureaucracy to achieve its long term goals.

The fact that the figures are polarizing helps, because everyone focuses on the person and not on what is actually happening.

Note that this is speculation, because we do not have full information.


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