With HN’s fascination for fascist artists, I’m surprised Leni Riefenstahl isn’t featured more prominently on the front page. But it’s only Dostoyevsky.
Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines a lot lately. That's not ok. I appreciate that you have deep reasons to feel strongly about the war, but you've been breaking HN's guidelines in plenty of other contexts too. If you keep this up, we're going to have to ban you. I don't want to do that, so if you'd please take the intended spirit of the site more to heart and comment within that, we'd appreciate it.
My last comment before this one was 56 days ago. You are not exactly making a case for your argument.
As to the ban - I asked you to delete my account years ago and you refused. So it's not something you can credibly threaten with, if I don't care. What I do care is you retaining my personal data against my will. But if I need a ban for you to purge it - please go ahead.
Maybe some helpful feedback for you: I would be more inclined to pay attention to the guidelines if those were not used to reinforce the site's obvious political biases. Yeah, you *say* HN is neutral, but for some reason only a certain kind of opinion gets promoted. I've read this site for 12 years in one account or another and the groupthink has only gotten worse. How are you going to solve this?
> I would be more inclined to pay attention to the guidelines if those were not used to reinforce the site's obvious political biases
This is an illusion. Everyone with strong political passions feels like the site is "obviously" biased against them. Your counterparts on the opposing side of any battle are equally certain of this. This is a reliable phenomenon and seems to be a function of how political passions work. It's not an accurate reflection of either the community or the moderation, no matter how obvious it feels.
> My last comment before this one was 56 days ago.
I'm responding to the preponderance of guideline-breaking comments in your HN comment feed.
Re deletion: it looks like you emailed us 7 years ago. Since then a lot has changed; we still don't delete entire account histories but we can randomize the username and/or do other things.
The search “site:https://news.ycombinator.com/front Gogol” (major Ukrainian author that russia tries to appropriate) yields 1 article about russian theater!
Russia is known for using Russification as a method of oppression and genocide [1]. Dostoyevsky’s views are also pretty well known and their existence is not a matter of partisan opinion. If you are talking about Dostoyevsky, you are talking about core beliefs of russian fascist thought [2].
By preventing criticism of this, you are not neutral. This is not a political or ideological issue. It is a moral, humanist issue. And you know that.
> ... but we can randomize the username and/or do other things.
Have you considered that the Ukrainian armed forces may have made a mistake? Accidentally shelling the damn setting of Russian explosives? Just because Ukraine is the victim doesn't mean they know more what happened there then we do. Again, fog of war is a real thing.
It will take several days until people outside the Ukrainian and Russian government can have any idea what really happened. But to paint me as a Russian sympathizer because I don't know for sure what happened in a warzone hours after reports started coming out is just incredibly stupid.
You seem to be quite misinformed about the war. It's openly known that Ukraine is running propaganda campaigns and intentionally publishes misleading information, to win the information war. Note, this isn't bad and in fact is encouraged by us western allies. We *want* Ukraine to lie. In fact that's how the last counter offensive happened. Ukraine ran a massive propaganda campaign about their "offensive" in the south, then attacked in the north. That's also why even western secret services don't know how many soldiers Ukraine has lost so far. That's also why we don't know who blew up Nordstream 1&2, even though the tracks point to a Ukrainian oligarch, as reported by reputable western newspapers.
But that doesn't mean that we - normal citizens in comfy chairs - can't try to look through the fog of war. No reason to go into the Reddit outrage mode. It's very possible that Ukraine has made a mistake or expects some military advantage from the dam breaking. But its also very possible that Russia broke the dam, to enhance their defense. Or it was an honest mistake due to lack of maintenance. Or it was a partisan group, who are active in this area. We will probably only really know in 2-3 months, when independent western experts have finished their investigation, anyone stating "facts" beforehand is just making up stuff. It isn't "victim" blaming to keep some rational mind in this conflict. We all know that Russia is a genocidal aggressor, but we also know that Ukraine is intentionally spreading misinformation, to gain military advantages.
You know, as a Ukrainian, what I appreciate the most is someone claiming to both be "in a comfy chair" and lecturing me on what is going on in my country of origin.
You have three potential explanations:
(1) The agressor, who:
- Has a history of using the very same tactics in Ukraine and sacrificing thousands of its citizens in burnt Earth approach,
- Has shot down a commercial airline "by mistake" several years ago
- Has a history and culture of endemic lying, which they also foster in Western countries through soft power and social network campaigns
- Who have started shelling the very citizens in Kherson they claimed to have liberated once they lost the city
- Benefits from the flooding massively, because it blocks off the looming counteroffensive by Ukraine
(2) The victim, who:
- Gains nothing on the battlefield by doing this and actually makes it more difficult for them.
- Has to sacrifice the lives of its own civilian population to achieve this.
- Has no history of such misinformation tactics.
(3) Force majeur.
But wait, here come the enlightened HN commenters to assign equal probability to all three explanations, disregarding all of the above, because:
- They haven't bothered to actually inform themselves (thinking that *oligarchs*, even with a Ukrainian citizenship, have nothing to do with russian secret service is another level of naive)
- They feel entitled to have an uninformed opinion
- Imply that the lives of Ukrainians are worth so little that their government would willingly sacrifice them.
This "whataboutism" is perfectly valid, because it highlights double standards. Whataboutism isn't a blanket logical fallacy, it's applicable in certain scenarios.
Since you seemed to appreciate logical fallacies, your argument starts with an appeal to emotion [0], then ends with ad hominem [1]. There's no point in your argument, nor in your personal attack, since nobody denied the war or mentioned anything about it in this thread of ours. Siding with the victim doesn't suddenly make your logic perfectly sound, and it doesn't make your peers side with the aggressors, either. Let's keep discussions civil, shall we?
What are you trying to say? To hell with facts and reason, if they're opposing my politics or emotions?
I guess critics of enlightenment were right: humans ain't improving shit. We're only pretending to, and it works only as long as the culture allows it.
This is not about code, it's about standards. As long as I don't have to have 2 Rusts to deal with, I'm fine with this, but right now at least the branding isn't supporting that.
If the majority of Amos (fasterthanlime), Raph Levien, Ashley Williams, Carol Nichols and Steve Klabnik throw their weight behind any fork of Rust, then that’s where I’m putting my energy too.
I believe they’re hugely responsible for most of the adoption of Rust and have no doubt they’d see continued success anywhere they choose.
Ashley Williams comments were sympathetic but unsupportive. I haven’t heard anything from the others.
Based on Ashley’s comments, I think the HN community has really overreacted to this story and treated it as something much bigger than it is. Im not sure there’s anyone at all notable involved with the “crab” fork.
I haven’t looked into it much though, someone may correct me. Overall though, I’m not sure this is worthy of our attention.
That's a very short-sighted way to read the room.
Doubt has been sown at a critical Rust adoption juncture, and major damage has occurred, and the stench will not simply blow away or only stick with the forkers, it's damaged RUST and The Official Rust People need to wake up and smell some burning coffee, or the dreams of this unique lego just evaporating while you claim it's all a tempest in a teapot.
Note: I have no horse in this race other than using Rust and wanting to have a stable unique lego for all things from baremetal to high level, which is here and being threatened by all this nonsense.
HN teapot tempest = something Official Folks better heed, or pay the price for... problem is, this strike is damaging the company, and management thinks it's no big deal...
The knots HN ties itself into bashing "EU regulations", but then easily deciding to impose arbitrary regulations on payment companies is a sight to behold.
if you took a thousand people who adhere to different ethics and polled them on questions of ethics, would you expect the net responses to adhere to any consistent ethics even if each individual's responses did?
