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A case study in the banality of evil sadly. Also a perfect example of why care and enforcemrnt should never be mixed, both for its immediate effects and the lasting distrust it will eventually cause.

Cumpiler69 doubting FactKnower69 knowing his facts. What is the world coming to.


Santa deniers be like "that was your parents who slapped Arius at the council of Nicea!" Do not believe their lies.


If that were true, they wouldn't make such a partnership. Such companies exist merely to launder the bad reputation that accumulates from this kind of behaviour. It is right and proper that any company that engages firms like that should face reputational damage, if not for moral reasons, then to correct the incentive structures.


This is a very strange read. My initial feeling was that it was an awful lot of verbal gesticulation aimed at simple gaslighting. Having read most of it at this point it almost reads like it's trying to confirm the hypothesis while saying it's doing the opposite. I really dunno what to make of the piece, but it's kind of an exhausting read.


I think you are exactly right. patio11 both wants to communicate a point and also understands that communicating certain points can lead to really bad outcomes for you and your family. Thus he often writes that way about topics where powerful individuals might wish to harm him for his opinions. Such is the way the world really works, regardless of whatever naive people were taught in school about freedom of expression. “If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.”


We need a good name for this style of writing.



Indeed. Also linked from that article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_and_the_Art_of_Wri...

> prior to the 19th century, Western scholars commonly understood that philosophical writing is not at home in any polity, no matter how liberal.. In questioning established opinions.. pre-modern philosophers found it necessary to convey their messages obliquely. Their "art of writing" was the art of esoteric communication. This is all the more apparent in medieval times, when heterodox political thinkers wrote under the threat of the Inquisition or comparably strict tribunals.


samizdat


perhaps, patiotic :)


I've been in two situations like this where I eventually "WON". You don't simply heal. You don't accept that that just wasn't the place for you and move on. What you do is have your perspective on other humans permanently and irrevocably changed. If you are a certain kind of person who values truth and personal responsibility, you come to understand that the world is fundamentally incompatible with you, and are faced with the choice of living a meaningful life where you are constantly preyed upon and abused, or living a meaningless existence in which you betray everything you ever valued about yourself.


"If you are a certain kind of person who values truth and personal responsibility, you come to understand that the world is fundamentally incompatible with you"

This logic is flawed in that you are assuming no one else shares the same values as you do.


That's not an assumption embedded in what I said. The fact that I identify with Brain's circumstances shows that I'm aware and believe in the existence of such people other than myself. The reason that I "won" my battles is a result of at least some shared values and perceptions of others around me. It's not about that, it's about the reality of what awaits you if you want to live your life a certain way and can't accept living it differently. That is all.


And how long have you spent in academia? What do you think research universities produce at scale to keep their Carnegie category?


You have to resolve the fact that his values existed in that sphere. If his values exist then surely there are others. The whole him against the world defeatism is ultimately flawed logic.


Funny, I pulled up HN while I go through modding a Wii I got from hard rubbish.


Until they aren't.


Well sure. Physical IDs are also not tiny government listening devices either. Unit they are.


If you expect your team to provide 24/7/365 assurance, then it's hard to see how that isn't a perfectly reasonable idea. The only counter to it is that keeping people on call shifts financial cost off the business in the form of psychological cost to its employees. Not very convincing.


Would you take the night shift? Everyone I've seen promote this idea seems to expect that they'll be the lucky ones who get to keep a normal schedule. If you have a service that needs 24/7 uptime, and you transition from an oncall model to a shift model, at least 2 out of every 3 engineers on the team are going to have to change shifts or quit. If the entire industry shifts, high-availability software would simply join the ranks of fields like nursing or manufacturing where many people have no realistic option to work normal hours.


I'm the one who wants to do the night shifts. I miss the time when I worked with a 13-hour time difference due to time zones. But now I don't have the option of working at night, everyone has to be at work during 'business hours', and yet the company I now work for has an on-call policy, and they only pay a tiny bonus to people who join the initiative.


The sane way to solve that problem is to hire people in different time zones to get coverage. Some still need to do weekends but even those are not the same in every country (e.g. Israel).


Like somebody else said, typical in Australia too. Companies tend to be pretty accomodating about when you take it within reason, and those who don't wish to take it, or who work somewhere where the work culture is the exception, i.e., people are expected to always be on deck, can look forward to having it paid out when they leave.

Just a word of caution for those who do this though, if the company goes bust, your payout will be via bankruptcy handling, and so you may not receive everything if you accrue a LOT.


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