mysterious: adj. difficult or impossible to understand, explain, or identify.

While magic requires mystery, mystery does not require magic and they are not synonyms. It is perfectly valid to state something is a scientific mystery without implying magic is involved in some way.

No, you'll need servers and enough network capacity to handle the load, an understanding and supportive hosting provider, a law degree or enough money to pay somebody with one to keep you out of court/jail/prison, a network of degenerates to provide traffic and content and/or a copy of the existing 4chan content, a stomach of steel to deal with the content moderation duties, and a moral compass so warped you think hosting degrading and illegal content is "just liberalism and freedom of speech" and not something that needs a second thought by any right-minded person.

But sure, if you have all that and the source code, you're all set. Godspeed!

All content that violates the law of the United States is banned on 4chan. I don't know where you got that idea.

I remember 8chan had literally one rule: don't violate US law.

oh i guess in that case it is legal everywhere then cool cool cool kthxbye

>a copy of the existing 4chan content

4chan's content is ephemeral. Most of it is gone every few days.

That's how it used to be (and the vast majority of early content is indeed lost). Most boards were auto-archived starting in the mid/late 2010s, though, with many archives being searchable. Some even allow ghost posting.

It sounds like everything was running on one server, fwiw.

For a while, I was CTO of a company called Livestation [0], which as the Wikipedia article states, was "originally based on peer-to-peer technology acquired from Microsoft Research".

This P2P stack was meant to allow for mass scaling of lowish latency video streaming, even in parts of the World with limited peer bandwidth to original content source servers. The VC-1 format got into a legal quagmire, as most video streaming protocols do, and it speaks volumes that by the time I turned up in ~2012-ish, the entire stack was RTMP, RTSP, HDS and HLS with zero evidence of that P2P tech stack in production.

My main role was to get the ingest stack out of a DC and into cloud, while also dealing with a myriad of poor design decisions that led to issues (yes, that 2013 outage in the first paragraph of the wiki article was on my watch).

At no point did anybody suggest to me that what we really needed to fix our attention back to was P2P streaming, beyond the fact the company built a version of Periscope (Twitter's first live streaming product), and launched it weeks/months before they did, and were pivoting towards a social media platform, at which point I decided to go do other things.

The technical and legal problems are real, and covered elsewhere here. People want reliable delivery. Even Spotify, YouTube and others who have licensed content and could save a pile by moving to DRM-ified P2P don't go near it, and that should tell you something about the challenges.

I'd love more widespread adoption of P2P tech, but not convinced we'll ever see it in AV any time soon, unfortunately.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveStation

I used LiveStation from time to time, and just for fun I was playing around with finding out when and how it employed P2P protocols. Needless to say, I never found any evidence of P2P in LiveStation. And now I know why :)

Thank you for bringing up the warm memories I thought I no longer had.

Thanks for supporting a business that was pretty cool, once. I bailed as it got into the consumer livestream space, but sometimes think about resurrecting it as a higher-quality OTT app that isn't rammed with absolute junk and ads. The work that platform did during the Arab spring was significant, and I can't honestly point to a good modern alternative today.

You bring up a good point. It's interesting that YouTube at least doesn't do p2p for their non-DRM content.

Sounds like a recipe for dissatisfied users

"Why's my internet slow? Oh, YouTube is uploading a bunch of stuff to other people"

"How did I hit my bandwidth cap for the month already? Oh, youtube is..."

But bandwidth is extremely cheap in 2025 to the point that I do not even check my bandwidth usage and I have never reached my 2TB/month bandwidth cap in the last 3 years.

Secondly, the p2p system will be advantageous for the videos that most people watch, i.e., popular videos. This implies that the "popular" video will have a large number of concurrent users who are transmitting a small part of video to just 3 other peers who are then transmitting the same part to 3 other peers.

This way, the bandwidth usage for uploading is reduced.

Those problems are implementation specific

I don't see how you implement p2p without the p2p part.

My point is you could for example choose not to use very much (or any) extra upload bandwidth without getting user consent first.

That's like saying you can choose not to run a website. Like yes, you certainly could choose to do that, but not if you're planning to run a p2p based streaming website.

He's a 2x impeached convicted felon.

He told everyone what he was going to do. A lot of people thought he was a lying politician who lies, and therefore these were all lies. Or, at best, jokes or exaggerations.

And now, 4 months into a 4 year term, he's doing it all. Who knew?

So when he jokes that he can do whatever he wants, including run for a third term, learn from the past: it isn't a joke, even if he's chuckling; it isn't an exaggeration; it's not a lie. It's real, it's the plan. Decide how you feel about it.

I'm not criticising anyone or anything here, I'm just stating facts. It's sad to me that so many people think this is all coming as some sort of huge surprise.

You know who also told everyone what he was going to do? And about whom everyone said "nah he's not really that crazy, he's just pretending for his supporters". Hitler. Also just stating facts.

Yah, yah, yah... [waves people away while walking through offices, before sitting down to a cup of tea and some correspondence]

That scene is how most Monday mornings feel as I start to process my inbox. Including dropping the cup of tea all over myself and immediately needing a meeting with my superiors.

So many questions, but first off the bat: how are you getting onto HN, and what are you getting from this community to help you as a homeless guy in a minivan?

What does your rig look like? If you've got solar panels and battery and able to live somewhat comfortably, where would you draw the line between homeless and "van living"?

Hope your fortunes improve and that you ride this one out OK, godspeed!

Oh, I’m in a pretty sizable town right now, Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

I live in a 2001 Dodge grand Caravan and only have portable solar panels, and you’re right, I don’t know if I should call myself homeless most of the time but I’m homeless in the conventional sense where I don’t have a fixed address where I can get mail.

Thanks for the thoughts about my future, but I just don’t think about it and that’s the best thing to do for everyone I feel.

Only psychopaths with other people's money to burn want to produce OpenAI or Space X.

I think if you want to produce a sustainable business that lasts a long, long time, and provides a good product to a lot of customers, and employ a lot of good people and provide them with a good living, you want to do this, not that.

So…VCs

(:

People are staying away from an oligarchy where habeas corpus has been suspended for a wide range of situations, and that results in extradition without an option of release to El Salvador. That's the obvious bit the rest of us know and can see and TFA draws a line to that you can't see yet.

Tourism is not down in other countries. Migrants/asylum seekers don't typically fly in by plane to the top 8 airports in the US, and those that do, do not do so in numbers anywhere near large enough to account for the change in numbers.

If non-US citizens can be deported to El Salvador without due process for having a tattoo that an ICE officer deems to be "gang-related", you're immediately going to alienate most of the World's population from wanting to visit for any purpose.

The lack of due process and the threat of extradition on a whim is one that feels less likely to happen to me as a caucasian with US citizens as family, but the impact of it would be life-changingly poor. I'd rather just not travel to the US, for tourism, family or business reasons.

I'm not sure anything done in the last 3 months is much of a surprise to people who listened to his campaign talking points. It seems to me that people just thought he was a lying politician who lies, and this was just more lying. What's caught people out is that he's doing it all, and believes SCOTUS will never condemn or find illegal a thing he has done so due process is an abstract concept only, and others consider themselves immune for actions covered by Exec Order.

It's all quite sad and worrying.

What I find terrifying and everyone else should as well: If all that stands between you and indefinite detention is an accusation without due process that you're foreign then literally anyone including citizens can be black bagged.

Don't forget the efforts to legally denounce citizen's citizenship. Right now, it's still unconstitutional, but the point is to test the waters.

When they'll deport innocent US citizens to El Salvador and then argue it's impossible to get them back I don't have any hope at all as a visitor. There's no way in hell I'm stepping foot in the United States right now.

To be fair, I don’t think we have any evidence of this happening to a citizen yet. I’m guessing we will soon though :(

It has happened to permanent residents who have green cards, though. It's absolutely not the same as being a citizen, but it should be noted that most green card holders are eligible to become US citizens.

Good point, the man I was thinking of isn't a citizen. But even though the administration has admitted it was an error, they still aren't interested in seeing him returned.

Don't even count on being a U.S. citizen making a difference. If they don't have due process for non-citizens, they just have to claim you are not a citizen to send you to El Salvador. Without due process you cannot prove you are a citizen.

> believes SCOTUS will never condemn or find illegal a thing he has done

Well, so far, that belief seems to be correct.

That gives you absolute rate, but not relative rate.

There are not many other cars out there (in comparison), with a self-driving mode. There are so many Teslas in the World out there driving around, that I think you'd have to considerably multiply all the others combined to get close to that number.

As such, while 5 > 0, and that's a problem, what we don't know (and perhaps can't know), is how that adjusts for population size. I'd want to see a motorcycle fatality rate per auto-driver-mile number, and even then, I'd want it adjusting for prevalence of motorcycles in the local population: the number in India, Rome, London and South California vary quite a bit.

> As such, while 5 > 0, and that's a problem, what we don't know (and perhaps can't know), is how that adjusts for population size.

This puts the burden on companies which may hesitate to put their “self driving” methods out there because it has trouble with detecting motorcyclists. There is a solid possibility that self driving isn’t being rolled out by others because they have higher regard for human life than Tesla and its exec.

“ADAS self-driving technology”

ADAS is fairly common. It was in my VW and BMW, and I’m certain many other cars have it too.