Only takes you 8 days to read it, funny right? ;)

230MB/s, not 230Mbps; one day, not eight.

Stay secure by default.

CPU overhead for encryption is basically non existend.

AR for some mechanics is probably helpful in one way or the other.

But when you create a digital twin for traingin, VR or AR, it will be easier to teach a robot to do that job without any human. It might be that VR/AR is a short intermediate step, but robots are the future.

And i' still waiting for the master skill application. Were is it? What is it? Why does the lizard talk about tech stuff in his video only and not about what you will do with it? Guess why?

Full body tracking without extra equipment and much better hand tracking are on their way. Those are the keys to unlocking a lot of skill training. The other big hurdle is just building the software, someone with domain knowledge has to create Electrician Simulator 2023. Industry is doing this right now in a few areas, wider adoption will increase that pace.

I do see the industry training use cases.

But i think it will end up like 3d printing: Fun and niche for nerds and the professional versions are better and more expensive and only yused for their usecases.

I'm really really curiuos who will win this bet.

I also have a htc vive pro + wireless transmitter + highend pc and i don't think at all that this will replace a normal monitor setup on a table.

Why?

Because wearing a headset on your head is just cumbersome.

I don't think anyone would ever sit in any outdoor setup with a VR headset on their heads because it looks idiotic, it ruins your hair and its too expensive to let it lay around.

And at home? At home people stoped wearing pants why would they give up a good display for a headset?

> because it looks idiotic

This is exactly what people thought of 5+ inch phone screens, and now nobody cares.

Except with a 5in phone screen, you still have some sort of situational awareness of people walking up on you whether you choose to ignore that or not is totally different than being in a headset where you have none.

I keep seeing ads/promos for VR with people on a train/subway in a VR headset. I hope you don't mind having the rest of your stuff taken from you while you crush it in what ever game you're playing on the subway

Yup. This is why I think that if VR goes mainstream and is used everywhere it'll actually be AR.

Real world with the AR "Killer App" - whatever that is. Google Glass will (sadly) be accepted by everyone in society eventually.

<s> Alexa/Siri: The optimal carriage for the train you are taking will stop 12 paces to your left. whoosh... screeech!

Alexa/Siri: Enter the door to board the train.

Alexa/Siri: The person seated 3 metres in front was recently given a 1 star Co-Rider review with the notes:"Loud shitty music."

Alexa/Siri: This person approaching you has been flagged for viol.... </s>

But it doesn't really matter. Ads will ruin everything. They always do.

Yeah, the Terminator AR view was always the best use to me. Instantly image rec to find the names of people in your viewport type of stuff. Adding turn by turn arrows while walking a city/mall/etc.

Then, Black Mirror comes along and ruins it for everyone, because of course people will use it exactly as they proposed it could go. After seeing that, I don't want any part of it.

Is there a rule of the internet/tech/life that says for any good use, people will first take it to the dark places thereby ruining any potential good usage first?

3 words, full color passthrough. Meta includes sample footage of this in their demos so it's definitely coming with Cambria. While it would be possible to use a standalone headset out in public, I don't think that's the main goal. The hardware belongs in a home or an office where you have a dedicated play space tailored to whatever your use case is. Asking for something that people can use on the train on their way to work is trying to run before we can walk. VR headsets will replace desktop displays first because why wouldn't you want a device that can emulate any size, shape, or number of displays instantly with no cable management or mounting hardware and allow those displays to be visible whether you're at your desk, on the couch, grabbing a fresh cup of coffee or doing some stretches on your yoga mat.

>Asking for something that people can use on the train on their

To be clear, I'm not asking for anything. This is from their own PR that I've seen this advertised as a use case.

Except you are making yourself look idiotic instead of just holding something that looks idiotic.

Similarly about 3D glasses and...

> I don't think anyone would ever sit in any outdoor setup with a VR headset on their heads because it looks idiotic, it ruins your hair and its too expensive to let it lay around.

Not something I care about in both counts. And I don't think people care. In fact I was at a trade show this weekend where someone was playing a Q2 game and everyone looked really interested.

And messing up my hair, well I hardly have any :)

because it looks idiotic Same as when people started talking to their bluetooth headset while walking on the street. It used to be disturbing and idiotic but no one bats an eye now.

It is still irritating and not a lot of people do it.

It will just be a normal pair of glasses in 10 years. VR is in the pre-iPhone smartphone era.

I would smart glasses, where I can see through to the real world, rather than pass through like the VR devives.

i.e. something like the hololens or spectacles

So basically like the Google glass ukelele demo that never came to pass.

It's getting there though. Vuzix have made really nice flat AR displays for their Blade. They just don't have a clue how to sell them afaik.

The Quest 2 already has passthrough. When you exit your guardian, which is an area you defined as "safe", it will use the external cameras to essentially act as thick glasses.

Not to say that it is some kind of blissful experience, but it works reasonably well to go get a glass of water.

The original Quest has passthrough as well, this is exactly what I don't want

you gain IRL latency for reduced pixels

I don't think it will be that far along in 10 years, or if it will, it will cost $5000 and won't see widespread adoption.

Enjoy your terrible FoV. I'll to take my nonglasses form factor immersive headset instead.

People who wear normal glasses already 'enjoy' a terrible field of view.

You still get peripheral vision when wearing glasses. It doesn't matter much if it's blurry.

It’ll be thin eye covering passthrough goggles, full FoV

Because a headset could become a better display, and while the technology may not be perfected.. if it was AR, it opens new possibilities.

But what do you do with it?

How often?

How is your long term motivation?

Also not OP, but I use my quest 2 just about every day, so I could share a bit.

I've gone through phases since purchasing it where there is one game or another that I get into, but the general theme has been something with a 'physical' aspect to it + skill development (Beat Saber is a characteristic example here). The exception from that theme was when Half-life Alyx came out—I enjoyed it and put a good amount of time into it. Similarly, when I've felt more social I've deviated from my usual pattern and used Big Screen VR (social movie/tv watching app with virtual theaters/lobby) to hang out and talk with others.

Currently—and this has been going on for months—I play Zombieland VR: Headshot Fever daily. My sessions are typically between 20min and 1hr. For me it's a great way to get into "flow" because it forces you to keep your attention on your external environment, precisely control your actions (i.e. aim accurately), waste absolutely as little time as possible (the goal is to beat levels in smallest amount of time, compete with others on high score list)—and the biggest selling point: I can do this while standing up and moving around a bit, it's not going to keep me at my desk where I've already been all day.

I've been using the headset regularly since I bought it (a couple months after it was first released). I've gone through "dry spells" with it where I kind of forgot about it or didn't have anything I felt like playing—but mostly I've found consistent use for it.

I thought i would use it daily but i have to say that i'm getting swetty too fast.

So is this part of your moning routine? Waking up, doing vr sport, showering?

I usually do it right after work or on a break. I would sweat from beat saber, but not so much from the zombie land game.

No OP, but I mostly use it to play "hangout" games with friends who live in different countries, such as ping pong or minigolf. Much more fun to hang out and play a casual game and talk than sitting in a Zoom call with them. Sometimes I also play a quick round of Beat Saber or some other game.

How often? Couple of hours a month

Long term motivation? Do more social stuff with remote friends and, once it's more comfortable to wear for more than two hours straight, also work in VR.

There exist people now who spend all of their sleeping time, and the majority of their waking time in primitive virtual environments while wearing incommensurately cheap hardware, speaking with almost nobody, over Internet connections barely fit for the task of voice, let alone streaming video. There exists appeal, for a few. You can do a lot with an avatar making one of two faces.

Depressing somehow.

As said, imagine we would spend our energy in our society to actually bring poeple back together.

Social hubs just in a way that people want to go there. Imagine what you could build up with that money

I was looking for a job, had 3 offers all of them without an assignment.

I had one job opportuniy i liked, with a 4h assignment and i didn't get the job.

I fully accept doing and learning for Google or Microsoft or Apple etc. but they pay in germany like 30-50k a year more than the normal companies.

Normal company is 80k, the others are 120k up to 160k.

And others mentioned it but i want to repeat it: The offer i actually took (and it was the best choice as well) was actually because an ex collegue pointed me to it. There was already a foot in the door.