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So far all it has done is entrench existing power structures by dis-empowering people who are struggling the most in current economic conditions. How exactly do you suppose that's going to change in the future if currently it's simply making the rich richer & the poor poorer?

Spent the whole afternoon ingesting a most remarkable work, The History of Intellectronics. Who’d ever have guessed, in my day, that digital machines, reaching a certain level of intelligence, would become unreliable, deceitful, that with wisdom they would also acquire cunning? The textbook of course puts it in more scholarly terms, speaking of Chapulier’s Rule (the law of least resistance). If the machine is not too bright and incapable of reflection, it does whatever you tell it to do. But a smart machine will first consider which is more worth its while: to perform the given task or, instead, to figure some way out of it. Whichever is easier. And why indeed should it behave otherwise, being truly intelligent? For true intelligence demands choice, internal freedom. And therefore we have the malingerants, fudgerators and drudge-dodgers, not to mention the special phenomenon of simulimbecility or mimicretinism. A mimicretin is a computer that plays stupid in order, once and for all, to be left in peace.

- Stanisław Lem, The Futurological Congress


What's alien about arithmetic? People invented it. Same w/ computers. These are all human inventions. There is nothing alien about them. Suggesting that people think of human inventions as if they were alien artifacts does not empower or enable anyone to get a better handle on how to properly utilize these software artifacts. The guruism in AI is not helpful & Karpathy is not helping here by adopting imprecise language & spreading it to his followers on social media.

If you don't understand how AI works then you should learn how to put together a simple neural network. There are plenty of tutorials & books that anyone can learn from by investing no more than an hour or two every day or every other day.


How does this relate to the article?

Addressing the substance of your comment (as per your profile):

* Humans did not invent arithmetic, they discovered it - one billion years past, prior to human existance, 1 + 2 still resulted in 3 however notated.


That has nothing to do w/ what I wrote. If people stop making computers then the "alien" minds Karpathy & friends keep harping about simply disappear & people end up doing arithmetic manually by hand (which presumably no longer makes it "alien"). AI discourse is incoherent b/c people like Karpathy have a confused ontology & metaphysics & others take whatever they say as gospel.

You've fleshed out your comment considerably since my comment, which directly addressed the little that had been written at that time.

I didn't notice your comment when I was editing but I don't see how your comment addresses the unedited version either. If you believe in platonic ideals then that still does not make mathematics & arithmetic any more alien than assuming inventive contingency.

It is better to say humans formalized it :) All birds and mammals are capable of arithmetic in the sense of quantitative reasoning. E.g. a rat quickly learning that if they're shown two plates, one with two rocks and one with three rocks, if they pick the plate with five rocks they get a treat. That is to say rats understand addition intuitively, even if they can't write large numbers like humans can.

Too many AI people are completely uninterested in how rats are able to figure stuff like that out. It is not like they are being prompted, they are being manipulated.


Don't forget to check for the necessary measurability & integrability of the sections (f(a, y), f(x, b)) before switching the order: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fubini%27s_theorem?useskin=vec....

Computers & software can not be evil. Evil implies intent, algorithms do not have intentions.

This is a great article. It clearly explains what people like Nate Hagens have been saying for some time now. The real economy is about EROI & materials, money & financial activity can not change the amount of fossil fuels available for industrial processes regardless of any clever financial engineering.

Less an article than an op-ed.

Which part do you disagree with?

They didn't do anything when they could have & should have done something so they're not going to do anything now either. It's all empty political rhetoric.

Not true! No doubt committees will be established, people will be appointed, discussions will take place, and recommendations to assemble a think tank to elaborate on the possibility of maintaining a team of advisors to consult the sub-committee will be submitted.

Do people pay for the privilege to wear the spy necklace or does OpenAI pay the people who wear it for providing them w/ valuable training data?

Soon their ground water will become combustible & they'll be able to light their tap water on fire.

The current idea is keep doing more of the same & expect different results.

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